The Bombardier Bi-levels are coming to a station near you, but not right away.

While the first meeting between the Ergonomics Committee representatives and Bombardier occurred in August of 2003 the first pilot cars destined for testing in Pueblo, Colorado will not be completed until August of 2005. That's more than a two year time frame from first conception to assembly of the first six cars; perhaps the longest development timeframe in the history of transit equipment construction.

The picture and schematic drawing below show an interior shot and an interior/cross section of the car. The Bi-level cab car is a behemoth. It is 85 feet long, 14 feet, 6 inches in height, and 10 feet, 6 inches in width. The cab car weighs in at 139,000 pounds or 32,000 pounds more than a Comet V cab car.

The 100 car order will include:
15 cab cars with 128 passenger seats.
37 toilet trailers with 132 passenger seats.
48 trailer with 142 seats.

All cars will have room for standees and their luggage.

This is a $243 million dollar order that was awarded in March of 2003. Entry into service is scheduled to start in early 2006.

For more information on the development of the Bi-level cab and the input we have had please go to the following pages:
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A first look at the schematics for the new Bi-level cabs.
2. BLE Ergo Committee flies to Montreal.

What are our concerns as engineers?

Some of the items of interest to engineers are the seats (height and forward and back adjustment), visibility out of the windshield, Switchology or placement and type of control switches, heat and air or Hotel Amenities, Radio/PA/IC configuration, and the arrangement of controls on the desk top.

Since Bob Daniels and I attended the first meeting between the engineers and Bombardier in August of 2003 the Ergonomics Committee has not been contacted once for advice, informed of changes in the cab design, or asked for input to these changes until our latest meeting with Bombardier on July 15, 2004. As a result of this, less than adequate consideration has been given to alternatives and changes that will affect our engineers for generations to come. For this we are disappointed.

The project people assure us that there is still time to go over all the changes we would like to discuss and implement the ones we can agree on.


The members of the Ergonomics Committee are committed to finding ways to improve the cab environment and can provide a valuable resource if consulted when changes are contemplated.   

Below are some of the pictures taken during the Committee's second venture into Bombardier Land at their La Pocatiere Plant in Quebec, Canada. My comments after the visit are included below (Responses by the company, Bombardier, and thoughts of the Ergo Committee are included also):


 

During the Hard Mockup review Nancy Lessard, Ed Prawdzik, and I went over some 46 points that had been brought up during our last visit on August 13, 2003. A few of these are still unresolved.

1. Seat height adjustment:
        Regarding seat height travel. It was mentioned that APTA standards specify a seat height deviation of from 16" to 19" for a travel distance of 3". Practical experience in Comet IV and V cabs shows that these parameters are insufficient to provide comfort for medium to tall engineers. Longer travel is needed. APTA standards are inadequate for the needs of New Jersey Transit engineers and are unacceptable. Since the seat installed in the hard mockup is not the one that will be used in the actual car it is impossible to tell if the actual seat will have enough seat back, seat pan, height, and other adjustments to satisfy the needs of locomotive engineers. It is imperative that a proper seat is approved by the Ergonomics Committee before purchase of enough seats, plus spares, for the fleet. Meetings with APTA representatives may be necessary to resolve this issue if APTA standards are to be adhered to, otherwise seats with adequate height travel need to be found as soon as possible. A proper seat with adequate adjustment parameters can become the standard NJ Transit cab car seat. This would resolve issues ongoing with other series of cab cars.

Update:
    As mentioned above, the cab seat we saw was not the cab seat that will be installed in the production Bi-level cars. The schematic above represents the seat which is intended to be installed in the Bi-level cab. This seat is a modified seat based on the ALP-46 and PL42AC cab seats. The Bi-level seat will be narrower to accommodate the narrower confines of the Bi-level cab. The Ergo Committee will again venture to Bombardier Land in November will two engineers who will push the seat to it's limits. If you look closely at the schematic you will notice the air line coming out of the back of the seat. The seat that will be installed in the Bi-level cab will not be an air ride seat. It will be 100% mechanical to reduce maintenance and increase reliability.

If this seat can be adapted to cab cars now in service it may become the "Agreement Seat" we have been trying for years to find.

2. Switchology:
        It was noted that the switch for the windshield heat needs to be changed. Quite frankly, I was surprised to find a toggle switch being used for this function at this time in passenger car design. While a simple on/off switch is adequate for turning an electrical device on and off it doesn't address a number of concerns. Practical experience in Comet  V cab cars indicates that cab heaters will be left on unnecessarily if some indicator and/or timer is not part of the system. This can result in premature failure of the windshield heater. A rocker or push button switch with an indicator light is necessary to help alleviate this problem.  The indicator light should be extinguished when the timer turns off the windshield heater so the engineer knows whether the heater is on or off. It was not discussed but I will assume that the windshield heater, radio, and windshield wipers can all be used without activating the cab for adequate vision and safety during backup moves. If this is not the case please let me know so this issue can be resolved.

   
The members of the Ergo Committee suggested a touch pad panel for all the functions that require an on/off selection. It was felt that such a panel with lighted buttons to indicate when a feature was activated or when it was off. It was suggested that this would simplify not only the cab but make maintenance easier. The Mechanical Department did not agree for reasons of cost, reliability, and potential vandalism and no touch panel will be used.

Update:
    The windshield heat switch will remain a toggle switch over the objections of the Committee. The Mechanical Department felt that a toggle switch was adequate for the purpose. Since engineers all know that toggles switches can, and eventually will be, turned turn to all points of the compass labels for a toggle switch become meaningless. To prevent the possibility of the windshield heat being left on when not needed it was suggested y the Ergo Committee that there be an indicator light for the windshield heat feature on the indicator panel replacing the "HEP Ground Fault" light which is useless to the engineer. The Mechanical Department and Project people are looking into this change.

        The sander switch type has been changed as requested but it's position in the cab is not what we had discussed at our August 13, 2003 meeting. At that time it was suggested that a sanding switch similar to the one used in the ALP-46 would be used. The type switch installed in the Comet VI cab is the correct style but it's placement is in an awkward position being mounted vertically next to the headlight and ditchlight switches. My intention at the August 13th meeting was to have the new type sanding switch installed where the sanding switches were installed in the Comet V cabs; next to, and to the right of the brake housing. This placement would be far more ergonomically correct as the engineer's hand could rest on the desk top in a more natural and relaxed position. The placement of the sanding switch, in my opinion, is not acceptable and needs to be placed elsewhere.

Update:

    When we visited Bombardier in August of 2003 the control desk we were shown was identical in most respects to the Comet V desk. This would have allowed Bombardier to replace the headlight, ditchlight, and sander switches with ones identical to the switches in the ALP-46 motors. This would have been a huge improvement in the ergonomics of those controls. Unfortunately, the FRA and their new buff strength requirements caused the collision posts to intrude further into the Bilevel cab requiring that the control desk be narrower than the Comet V desk eliminating any place for the headlight, ditchlight, and sander switches on the desk. The Committee asked that some accommodation be made for the sander switch as the placement of the switch made it awkward to operate, especially during the approaching leaf season. We asked that either the switch activate for at least 20 seconds every time the switch is moved and/or add a sander feature to the door override switch so it can be used as a sander switch when the car is in motion like the ALP-44 door override switch. This is being looked into.


        The headlight switches can be smaller and less clunky. Similar, but smaller, switches used in the ALP-46s have been more than adequate for the purpose and present a more professional looking cab layout. Doesn't look like a change happening here.

        The windshield wiper control switches have finally been drought down from above the windshield and are within reach of the engineer.

        EP breakers have finally been brought to the front panel where they should have been since the Comet IIIs were built. In the Comet IV and V cabs one breaker has been sufficient. If, for some reason, two are necessary, please connect them so they operate as one. One breaker switch is preferred. Multi poled switches will have a bar between them.

        The cab reading light is back, thank you. Placement of the reading light, as we discussed, needs to be moved more towards the rear of the cab as it casts shadows over the switches on the right side panel. While the on/off switch is adequate for this purpose, a switch more in line with a Twenty-first Century, $2.4 million cab car can be found. The location of the cab reading light in the mock-up was approximate and acted as a place holder. The actual location of the light will be adjusted to provide the proper illumination.

        Cab switch labels continue to be unlit. The labels in the Comet VI cab will be white and indented into the metal panel. I found better switch layout and labeling in the trucks I drove in the seventies.  It seems little effort has been incorporated here. I believe we can do much better with not much effort. Lighted or photoluminescent labels make sense here.
The Mechanical Department is concerned about switch labels reflecting in the windshield under various conditions. The Committee is also concerned about this but feel the problems associated with lighted labels can be surmounted.

Update:
   
Cab switch labels will be photoluminescent so they glow in the dark.

3. Radio/PA/IC:
        A separate Radio and PA/IC head and speaker was requested and the request was, apparently, ignored. Practical experience with ALP-46, Comet IV, and V cabs proves conclusively that separate radio, PA/IC heads/speakers are the way to go as interference between PA announcements and radio transmissions will compromise operating safety. The PA speaker in the Bi-level cab has been positioned in the ceiling in the center of the cab and has no volume control. This can lead to unheard and/or misunderstood radio transmissions when both PA and radio are in use at the same time. The volume of the PA/IC speaker must be controlled by the engineer since only the engineer can determine volume priorities in the cab. It was mentioned at an Ergonomics Committee meeting that the PA volume would be computer controlled based on ambient noise level in the cab. If this is the plan it is unacceptable for the reasons just mentioned. A simple volume control knob is more than sufficient. This continues to be an issue. The Committee is insisting on separate Radios and PA/ICs. Also separate volume controls are necessary. We believe this to be a safety issue.

Update: The Mechanical Department is looking into alternatives.

4. Desk Top
        What happened to the desk top? At the August 13th meeting the desk top in the soft mockup was the same width as the current comet V desk top. Somewhere along the line the desk top was narrowed in width since there is no longer room to the right of the brake housing for sanding levers nor room to the left of the throttle assembly for those clunky headlight and ditchlight switches. There is also inadequate separation between the brake housing and the horn valve for proper operation of the horn without interference from the brake handle when it is the LAP/SERVICE portion when operated by right handed engineers. We talked about moving the brake assembly further to the right if possible but it could not be determined  on the hard mockup if adequate repositioning was possible. The cramped desk top also caused the reverser to be too close to the horn valve. It was suggested that the reverser handle be bent to a ninety degree angle or shortened to prevent this problem but this should never have been an issue. Bombardier is looking into ways to create a greater separation between the components on the desk top. We will see what develops in November.

5. Leg room:
        The Comet VI multi-level car is a beautiful car. It is an 85 foot long, 139,000 pound behemoth. It appears well thought-out in just about every respect except the cab environment. Is it possible that in an 85 foot car there is no space for a medium to tall engineer to stretch his/her legs comfortably; that there is no room for the engineer's feet except under the cab heater? Folks, this is the Twenty-first Century. Sophisticated chemicals and complex mind games are now the preferred method of torture. Folding an engineer into the fetal position is passé. While we are told that this cab is the same size as all the earlier cabs, given the smaller desk top and inadequate leg room, just sitting in this cab gives the feeling of claustrophobia. The inadequate seat height adjustment only adds to the feeling of sitting in a bath tub and provides a less that optimum view out the windshield. Input from commuter groups, Transit's Mechanical Department, and many others has been touted in Bombardier's presentation. Much time was taken to include their input in design as well as comparisons to other transit cars now running throughout the world. Was any time taken to see what other configurations of cabs should be studied to improve the engineer's environment? The Long Island M-7 car has far more leg space than the Comet VI. The difference is in the placement of the cab and it's length. The layout of the controls seems much better at first viewing. Was this type of cab configuration considered for the Comet VI? Were others?  If not, why
not?

Update:
Bombardier has found three inches more behind the cab. they have done this by eliminating a passenger seat and moving the electrical bay further into the car body. This, in conjunction with the new seat, moving the cab heater up nine inches should give us more leg room. We will see.

6. Ventilation:
        There has been a ventilator defusing screen placed on the fireman's side of the cab. This will help ventilate the cab. Unfortunately there is
only two air nozzles and no nozzle fan above the engineer. This needs to be reviewed as two nozzles and no fan was found to be inadequate in the Comet V cab. More vents are in the offing but as of now, no separate blower fan. The modification of the Comet V cab ventilation system with three blower nozzles and a separate blower fan is the way to go here. Stay tuned on this.

7. Cup holder and train order holder:
        Cup holder is very sturdy like the ALP-46 but must be checked to see if it holds a twenty ounce bottle. Train order clip will be stronger than one in hard mockup. These points will be discussed during the design review.

8. Cab door hold back:
        Since our meeting on August 13, 2003 we have found that the door holdbacks on the Comet IV and V cab cars have been too flimsy to stand up to the rigors of everyday use. The cab door hold backs for the Comet VIs must be stronger and more reliable. A stronger, more reliable door hold back can be retrofitted to the Comet IV and V cabs as required solving multiple problems with little effort. Ed Prawdzik suggested a better alternative at the meeting. Better holdbacks are being looked into. The Committee will keep on top of this.

9. An adequate coat hook location has not been agreed on but the Committee is leaning toward installing on the inside of the "coffin" door. Other places will be looked at. We are open to suggestions on this.

10. Alarms:
    The alarms on the Comet Vs were a disaster are lessons have been learned. At this time there will be no audible handbrake alarm and the wheel slip alarm will be in the neighborhood of seventy to eighty DB.

11. Indicator Panel:
    Note, if you will, that the red alertor light is on the bottom of the indicator panel instead of on the top. This will help those of us who wear our sun visors on our caps.
 
12.  Under car bell:
   
The bell valve and the Alertor resets are on the left side below the indicator panel approximately where they are on the Comet III and IV cab cars. The bell is electronic with no moving parts. This should solve the problem of bell cartridges going bad and bells stopping by themselves.

I welcome all comments, additions, and corrections in errors of fact. The members of the BLE Ergonomics Committee believe a continuing open forum and cooperation are essential for a quality product that meets the needs of the engineers, NJ Transit, and the riding public. 
 


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